I’m gonna make a nun wimple for SWVH, so I’m thinking of better way to do it.
Some SCA ladies told me that the easier way to make a wimple would be attach an elastic band to the inside and so make it easy to put on and off. Also, looking at the pictures, it needs to be of two colours - black and white, and also have a cap-peak thingy. And it has to cover the hair completely. Plus there is that white thingy around the neck… which I’m not sure how to be made.
Did anyone make anything like that before?
I know that Malu knows how to tie one… Don’t ask how I know that, long story. As for the rest of it I’m not sure.
Technically, the wimple is that white thingy around the neck. The black bit on top is called a veil. Check out this description of 14thC nun’s getup, as described by a 20th C nun - with comments on mid-20C underwear while she’s at it.
EDIT:
[quote]wimple
n : headdress of cloth; worn over the head and around the neck
and ears by medieval women
Source: Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
Wimple \Wim"ple, n. [OE. wimpel, AS. winpel; akin to D. & G.
wimpel a pennant, streamer, OHG. wimpal a veil, Icel.
vimpill, Dan. & Sw. vimpel a pennant, streamer; of uncertain
origin. Cf. Gimp.]
- A covering of silk, linen, or other material, for the neck
and chin, formerly worn by women as an outdoor protection,
and still retained in the dress of nuns.[/quote]
OMG, this does sound scary… I’ve bought several meters of elastic band which I’m gonna use for the wimple, otherwise it’ll take ages to put it on or off
After long search in Google I found some pictures (yes, the one Derek posted was there too ), and the most useful for me seems this one:
It is big enough to see all the details. I think for the costume the part that covers neck and shoulders would be better made separate from the part on the head, otherwise the whole thing will move up and down every time I move my head.
I think the best way to make the head piece is to wrap the elastic band around the head on the forehead level, and attache another piece of elastic band to this one so that it goes around the face, just slightly fitting so that it doesn’t choke me. I tryed wrapping it like that, and it seems quite comfortable.
The whole head white covering needs to be attached to these two loops then, and hair can be put under it. The neck-shoulder piece can probably be done the same way with elastic band around the neck, slightly loose not to fit the throat too tightly.
Maybe it’s a good idea to attach the veil securely to the wimple, so that I don’t need to worry about it possibly falling off Plus, it will save time when putting the whole thing on-off, as after reading Cat’s link I got really terrified
Interesting thing about the veil colour: I was originally thinking of black one as just forgot they were sometimes white, but then, looking at this picture above, I thought that white veil looks very nice too. In fact, it looks very charitable and innocent, so nun-like. After searching more about catholic medieval orders I decided that Carmelites look very suitable, and then I found a medieval picture on Carmelite Order website that represents nuns in white veils! So this might be an option.
Shes cute!
Odd amount of make up for a nun to be wearing though…
The whole world agrees with you. This is Audrey Hepburn in “The Nun’s Story” (thus the make-up - in that time Holliwood was making all women extremely beautiful no matter how much it relates to the role )
The whole world agrees with you. This is Audrey Hepburn in “The Nun’s Story” (thus the make-up - in that time Holliwood was making all women extremely beautiful no matter how much it relates to the role )[/quote]
Audrey hepburn was beautiful without make up, the actresses of her generation had something that just made them stunning, they make todays “Hollywood Babes” look like a cup of cold sick
I agree with the sentiments about Audrey Hepburn - she has an aura of beauty that is self-apparent.
That being said, there are a few of current Hollywood actresses who are of her quality in terms of beauty.
- Anne Hathaway
- Salma Hayek
- Angelina Jolie (who should really start making some good movies again)
One thing Hollywood could do is to stop pretending that:
a) Leading men don’t age. Checkout Harrison Ford in Firewall for a lesson in unreal casting
b) Let the leading women age. Meryl Streep is brilliant in The Hours and Adapatation - I’d love to see even more from her - she is a truly brilliant actress.
I’m not holding my breath…
Ummm, tell you what Carl, you can have the one on the left.
[quote=“Mike Curtis”]* Anne Hathaway
- Salma Hayek
- Angelina Jolie (who should really start making some good movies again)[/quote]
Anne Hathaway - definitely yes.
Salma Hayek - not exactly, she looks more passionate and hot, so it’s a different type, I think. Though not too much different, but still not very similar neither.
Angelina Jolie - gods, no! Her lips are too big, that’s a very different type. With those lips she looks much more modern than Audrey, I think she’s more of Goldie Hawn type. Plus, her eyes are not that big as Audrey’s, Anne’s, and Salma’s, which also makes big difference.
Angelina Jolie used to be hot but now she is on the Yo-Yo diet wagon EWWWW!!! to skinny i like curves on women not angles.
My top ten list has Marilyn Monroe and Sophia Loren very firmly on the top.
This will sound wierd but Christina Aguliera’s new video that is done in the WW2 USO style is kryptonite to me right now, that image of a beautiful woman in Navy Dress whites is like a sledgehammer to the hind brain.
I was born too late dammit
What is it with guys and bottle blondes. I vote Salma Hayek
I’m cracking up at the irony here!
A thread on [b]NUN Wimples[/b] turned into a chat on the hottest woment of all time!!!
I was waiting for someone to notice that at last…
However, I still intend to post more on wimples here as soon as I have something to post.
I’m very wimple-inspired now
And very nun-inspired too.
I vote Charlize Theron, mainly when she was in Aeon Flux. now she was hot.
Happy-happy! Found more pictures from that movie!
Here is the link to the album http://www.audrey1.com/gallery/results.php?cat=The+Nun’s+Story, they asked there not to link to images so I wouldn’t accent anything, but some of them are just wonderful.
Ok, this is, in fact, beginning of the 20th century, but looking at nun costume you can see it didn’t change much since Dark Ages. Really, it’s a typical medieval costume. So, I believe it can be taken as is, maybe with a bit of adjustment to make it more medievalish and less 20th centuryish. But in whole - a very helpful thing. And not only for wimple, but for the whole costume.
By the way, looking at those costumes, Audrey’s character could quite well be a Carmelite. I like her. Though I doubt I would make a white cape, so I probably wouldn’t be a completely authentic Carmelite then…
Speaking of wimple itself: I don’t think I would be making that cap-like thingy. Two reasons for that: on the medieval picture of Carmelites that I found on their website they didn’t have anything like that, which would be logical So I assume it was a later invention, and so not to be in 13th century costume.
Reason number two - it will so make me lack peripheral vision… not a good thing for a vampire hunter.
But the main reason is, of course, authentity
P.S. If someone thinks I post those pictures for your lustful pleasure than you are wrong. I just couldn’t care less for your vile discussions here, so I don’t yell at you for off-topic comments. If nobody wanna talk about wimples then I can talk to myself, or maybe Cat will come back and support me here.
I’d talk about wimples with you, but I don’t have any information to add, sorry.
Except that, yeah, nun’s outfits were formalised versions of what women were already wearing at the time their convents were founded.
Oh hey, I thought of a wimple-related anecodote;
At the Harcourt Park Tourney earlier this year, Cat and I were wondering around in kit, and, as you do if you’re a young medieval woman, wearing head scarves. At one point a skinhead biker type walked up to us and asked if we were nuns. When we said no, he said “Well you look it” and wobbled off, to a pair of blank stares. (I think it must have been the head-scarves, our dresses were quite brightly coloured.) In hindsight I think he was trying to insult us, but my advice to all the marijuana-sotted idjits out there is that taunts work better if the tauntee has the vaguest clue what you’re talking about, and would actually mind the comparison anyway.
[quote=“Stephanie”]Oh hey, I thought of a wimple-related anecodote;
At the Harcourt Park Tourney earlier this year, Cat and I were wondering around in kit, and, as you do if you’re a young medieval woman, wearing head scarves. At one point a skinhead biker type walked up to us and asked if we were nuns. When we said no, he said “Well you look it” and wobbled off, to a pair of blank stares. (I think it must have been the head-scarves, our dresses were quite brightly coloured.) In hindsight I think he was trying to insult us, but my advice to all the marijuana-sotted idjits out there is that taunts work better if the tauntee has the vaguest clue what you’re talking about, and would actually mind the comparison anyway.[/quote]
I have had stoned out muppets come up to me at fairs and such like and ask me why I am wearing a dress, I have to explain that it is a Surcoat, but it is a waste of time, i usually distract them with something shiny and scarper.
my absolute favourites are the bottomdwellers who walk up to me wearing lowrider jeans that are hanging around thier knees, and megadeath satanic wannabee t shirt, and a baseball cap that is turned to 90 degress and ask me why i am dressed like a freak.
OH I laugh, and laugh, and laugh , which upsets them for some reason
so many deformed infants, not enough wind swept crags i say