Golem side-lined by Doctors orders

Everyones favourite golem is being side lined from any activity till his Injuries have being dealt with

I’m put a call out to any one eager to help get the big fellow back on his feet, this will be a big project as there is quite a few issues that need to be addressed

let me know when you plan on surgery, i’ll see if i can make it to help out.

well first it will be a consult to determine exactly what needs to be down and how to go about getting it down

But sir your beindg added to the list

Specialist:
Gaffy
David H

I’m in. Gotta help a fellow rock when he’s in need.

Hot melt glue is what we used to bond the fabric body suit to the soft foam. Contact glue doesn’t work for bonding those materials.

It does if you layer the glue properly. For open cell of any sort you need at least two layers, but for the big fella I’d say aim for at least three.

Have you tried this with bonding open-cell fond to fabric?

Also, can you clarify what you mean by “layers” of contact adhesive?

My experience with one “layer” of F2 (i.e. normal usage of the glue) is that the bond was useless for bonding open-cell foam to itself or to fabric. Hot melt glue works well, and doesn’t require any special approach.

Yes, with much success, as the first victims of the void terror will testify. It’s the same with closed cell/eva as well, or any porous material.

You apply a layer as normal, let it tack/dry/whateveryoucallit, then apply a second layer. As always, being liberal helps quite a bit. The first layer soaks into the foam and dries, giving the second (or third) layers something to bond to. Out of curiosity I tried pulling fabric from foam, and came away with a rather scrappy looking bit of glue-hardened calico with a good inch of ripped foam still attached.

You’re quite right that one layer doesn’t work. Which is why they say to use more :wink:

Under no circumstances should you bother with the spray on stuff - it doesn’t matter how many layers you use or how liberal you get, whatever you make will just fall apart.

Hot glue is pretty good, but I found it doesn’t soak into the foam enough (no problems on the cloth side though!) and will quickly separate from it under any sort of stress. Also, I wonder if the amount of heat generated inside the suit would actually be enough to soften it again…

Gotcha.

That might also be a way to apply coloured latex onto open-cell foam too then. Apply the glue first, one or two layers, then the latex. Otherwise the liquid latex just gets sucked into the foam.

I’m not sure of the nature of the injuries, but I’ve often found when building very heavy garments, like padded gambesons for batton combat, that areas under stress like armpit seams benefit from being blanket stitched with very heavy thread (e.g. waxed linen thread for leather working). It’s a little bit of work doing it, but very strong. As I said, not sure of the nature of the repairs needed.

[quote=“Ryan Paddy”]Gotcha.

That might also be a way to apply coloured latex onto open-cell foam too then. Apply the glue first, one or two layers, then the latex. Otherwise the liquid latex just gets sucked into the foam.[/quote]

:smiley: For sure, and ironically the experimental part of the build I never got to - and I know Derek has had some success putting a layer of glue over weapons before latexing as well, though while it does help hold the latex I’m not entirely sure it’s necessary :slight_smile:

I tried it on (I think) Ryan’s recommendation. I can’t say I noticed any difference. I don’t have problems with the latex not sticking to the foam regardless.

Was that for closed-cell foam? I did pass on a recommendation for using glue before latexing that. But I can’t remember if I’d looked at it for preparing open-cell foam for latex. Open-cell foam has quite different issues to closed-cell, being so absorbent.

one of the issues is while the glue (contact and hot melt) is holding the foam is being pulled apart and the glue taking a layer of foam with it

So the foam itself is degrading? Or is it stress points, like Derek said?

its the stress on areas, mainly around thigh and groin area

sigh has he been looking at statues of wood nymphs again?

well the golem is off to see the same specialist that his older brother uses, he comes well recommended

The prognosis is good. But I need to obtain donar parts. Does anyone have 200mm thick mattress sponge???

heh, how much you needing?