Would the committee (Wellington or Auckland) consider buying some of these for the gear store?
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They’d be a really fast way of hanging fabric to cover walls (always an issue when we’re running games in a school or scout camp), or partitioning space, or creating an in game entrance way. Plus, as Hannah mentioned here, having a pretty photo backdrop can be a nice touch.
Those look amazing Steph!
They wouldn’t really act well to cover stuff in a game - the feet are massive… good for a end of game photoshoot i guess. But the same result could be applied with a green sheet across a wall for that.
$200 is a fair amount to burn on end of game photo’s that not every one wants.
[quote=“Xcerus”]They wouldn’t really act well to cover stuff in a game - the feet are massive… good for a end of game photoshoot i guess. But the same result could be applied with a green sheet across a wall for that.
$200 is a fair amount to burn on end of game photo’s that not every one wants.[/quote]Do you have any suggestions for hanging sheets quickly and securely? To cinderblock walls which don’t take sticky tape well?
[quote=“Xcerus”]They wouldn’t really act well to cover stuff in a game - the feet are massive… good for a end of game photoshoot i guess. But the same result could be applied with a green sheet across a wall for that.
$200 is a fair amount to burn on end of game photo’s that not every one wants.[/quote]
It could also be used in game, there are a bunch of possibilities as setting backdrop.
[quote=“Stephanie”][quote=“Xcerus”]They wouldn’t really act well to cover stuff in a game - the feet are massive… good for a end of game photoshoot i guess. But the same result could be applied with a green sheet across a wall for that.
$200 is a fair amount to burn on end of game photo’s that not every one wants.[/quote]Do you have any suggestions for hanging sheets quickly and securely? To cinderblock walls which don’t take sticky tape well?[/quote]
Hot glue.
I’ve read in several teacher’s forums that they use hot glue to put stuff up on cinderblock walls. It’s strong and once it cools you can remove it by popping it off with a butter knife and it doesn’t remove the paint.
Would be worth experimenting to see if this is true. I was going to do some decorating at Motu Moana with this method but forgot my extension cord.
[quote=“paulie”][quote=“Xcerus”]They wouldn’t really act well to cover stuff in a game - the feet are massive… good for a end of game photoshoot i guess. But the same result could be applied with a green sheet across a wall for that.
$200 is a fair amount to burn on end of game photo’s that not every one wants.[/quote]
It could also be used in game, there are a bunch of possibilities as setting backdrop.[/quote]
You need to hide the frame - that means building somthing to encase the frame (I dunno papermache roman pillars?) so then you are building scenery anyway, you may as well just paint up some plywood sheets to begin with.
I’ve used those removable picture hooks you can get from supermarkets
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They stick to pretty much anything and remove easily too. Only downside is you have to buy refills for the sticky part after each time you pull them off.
I’ve used them for hanging a tapestry at Teonn and Mordavia.
If you put them on the wall at rightangles to perpendicular and use a twine or washingline cord between to two you can then hang, or pin, material along the line.
To get a decent tension on the line its usually better to tie it to the hooks first and then place the hooks.
In the teacher’s forum I mentioned earlier, they’d hot glue those hooks to the wall, allowing them to be used repeatedly without needing to buy that sticky paper stuff.
Obviously we should practice this on a wall someone is willing to have damaged first. But if it works, excellent, we’ve just saved $200 
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Sorry for the long link! You can read some people’s experiences on some of those forums. Apparently using a hairdryer to soften the glue slightly helps it come off without taking paint with it.
I’d be really suspicious of hot gluing stuff to anything. The risk of damage…
The removable hooks I think are the best option. I’ve been wondering about those for a while.
There would be a an initial fairly large investment. I would expect to spend at least $200 on hooks at first. Then we actually need to find out how much refills of the sticky stuff is. Because then we would know how much each use will cost.
I think the hooks are the better idea because of the small storage space involved
As a thought, the very large ones are pretty strong. So if we got some light bamboo or dowel at top and bottom then the cloth could be on them and the poles placed on the hooks. No string. Very quick to set up. The only trick might be accounting for different height walls. but that should be possible with rolling the bottom sticks up.
Removable hooks can also take paint off. Only sometimes, but it’s wise to be careful if it looks like the paint job is a bit shoddy. Good idea, though.
They can take paint off and they take X number of hours to “cure”. I.e. you have to let the hooks sit overnight before putting stuff on them.
I did initially use my wall hangings with a balsa dowel on the hooks back when i had a ute, but since moving to a car I’ve found I just can’t carry the same length and had to move to a line hanging method. So just beware of the additonal logistics involved in transporting and storing the bamboo/dowel.
This is from the local Countdown.
Jumbo Hook, single, approx 16kg load - $6.40
Large hook, single, approx 11kg load - $6.40
Medium hooks, twin pack, 6.5kg load - $6.40.
Each pack comes with 1 refill, so each hook as 2 uses before requiring more refils. And the Jumbo hook uses 2 large hook refil strips.
Lost the bit of paper with the refil prices… />.>
It’s very unlikely they will take good paint off. But yes, loose paint could well come off. Hot glue will be worse.
As for time to stick, according to instructions, about an hour. I have actually hung stuff up immediately and so far been fine. But yeah, best to wait a little bit.
The removable hooks won’t work terribly well on a rough painted surface. It does need to be fairly smooth. That’s where hot glue would have the advantage.
Removable hooks need a quite clean surface. Hot glue may or may not need to be as clean…
The alternative to wide bases on the stands is heavy stands. If each stand had a couple of 20Kg barbell weights supporting the pole, they wouldn’t be particularly noticeable. An advantage of a stand is that you don’t need a wall, so they are more flexible. We might be able to do this with one 20Kg per pole if the weight was sufficiently wide.
You also won’t risk damaging the paintwork in the venue. The problem with sticking things to walls is that not everyone will do it properly (follow the instructions correctly, wait the appropriate time), not all paintwork will be to a high quality, and I fear that one day we’ll damage the venue and then be faced with reparations and/or a venue ban.
The Auckland gear library has a bunch of PVC poles we could use for the stand I envisage. We’d need to need to devise a way to attach the upright poles to the weights for easy transport and storage. For the cross support, I would use sail batten. They don’t flex much when stood on their side, and we could get different lengths for different-sized backdrops, and I think we could rig a way to join battens together for extra-wide backdrops.
Maybe Auckland could have a go and report back before we invest in the sticky hook system ? I’ve got some sail battens in my shed we could use to our trial run. I just need some weights, or maybe I’ll just cast some out of concrete. If so, I reckon we could make a set of stands for about $50-$70 (depending on the batten cost).
I’ll add this to next week’s meeting agenda.
[quote=“Mike Curtis”]The alternative to wide bases on the stands is heavy stands. If each stand had a couple of 20Kg barbell weights supporting the pole, they wouldn’t be particularly noticeable. An advantage of a stand is that you don’t need a wall, so they are more flexible. We might be able to do this with one 20Kg per pole if the weight was sufficiently wide.[/quote]Or sandbags? I remember helping on a short film shoot once, and the lighting guy had a bunch of professionally made bags that we draped over the bases of the lighting stands to make them more stable.