Boots - NZ footwear?

From the beginning of my stay in New Zealand I saw really lots of women around wearing boots. It seems to me that boots are a kind of typical NZ footwear.

Still, is it just a normal popular thing, or something more than that? I dunno, something cultural maybe… Or historically/traditionally worn…

The footwear shops are full of boots (which usually makes me almost cry because I want them all :cry: ). Lots of different types, lots of different colours. And they are being worn with anything. Maxi skirts, midi skirts, mini skirts, shorts, 3/4 pants, long pants, jeans…

(If anyone wonders, this post is inspired by seeing one of my workmates in new boots today. Goooods, they are so good!)

Boots are popular. Be warned, however that high-heeled, knee-high boots are colloquially known as f**k-me boots; just don’t let that put you off if you like them. :slight_smile:

That’s one of the most pretty kinds of boots…
…and why the hell they are associated like this…

Stiletto heeled boots (usually black, often the wrinkly sort that look like you pushed them down your leg) were (are? bit out of touch with the clubbing scene) worn by daggy westie chicks to go out on Sat nights trolling for a bloke. watch an episode of Outrageous Fortune and you’ll get the sort of thing.

(sorry if there are any daggy westie chicks out there) :open_mouth:

Hey, I was a bogan ‘chick’ growing up - but I was more the black jeans, Metallica t-shirt and Docs sort of girl 8) .
Where I come from, f**k-me boots were usually smooth black or dark brown zip-ups with chunky heels. Especially when teamed with an above the knee pleated skirt. The look that springs to my mind is kind of a cross between tarty and school-girlish (and thats probably made all the guys smile :blush: ).

Different socio-economic backgrounds, I suppose. Where I grew up a Metallica/AC-DC/Motorhead t-shirt constitued a significant financial investment - leather, unless handed down was only to be dreamt of :slight_smile: .

o.m.g…
I had to look for those word in dictionnary, and half of them I didn’t find, so I’m not sure what you meant :blush: , however, from the context i would guess this description means… hmmm… easy women?

sits down in front of the little heap of boots and start measuring their height and heels, trying to understand if they are in acceptable range

By the way, the winter is already here, so wearing boots become a really good idea (I got totally frozen today).

Still, I know quite a lot of Kiwis wear boots all year. Asian girls like bizarre boots, I think, and Pakeha girls usually prefer more plain boots.

Plus, lots of them wear boots with flat sole, no high heels… Is it current fashion?

Daggy westie chicks trolling for a bloke

Daggy - uncool, lame
Westie - from West Auckland
Trolling - hunting, looking for

some definitions:
Westie: - look up Ewen Gilmore - Westies come from West Auckland. Bogans are the same, but come from everywhere else.

For ‘cheap’ girls, more accurate would be ‘slapper’ or ‘slag’ or sl*t. Tart is an old fashioned and probably slightly more polite term for the same.

As for boots, wear what you like - as long as you’re not going out in public in those thigh-high, lace-up, patent leather boots with the 6-inch heels you should be fine :smiley:

6 inch! I have troubles even with 4 inch :laughing:

Hey, I found another word with double meaning! My dictionnary gives first meaning for “tart” as a pie with fruits, berries, or jam :unamused:

As someone who was born and grew up in West Auckland, I feel a certain sense of irony that a “Shore-girl” has the nerve to label West Auckland women as “daggy westie chicks” for choosing to wear stiletto high heeled boots.

Beccah (my wife) wears high heel boots. According to this thread, she’s a slut. Anyone care to stand by this pronouncement now that it applies to a well-known, non-Westie, larper ?

Boots of all kinds are popular, and plenty are leather with high heels. Not all qualify as Fuck Me boots, this is mainly the sexy stiletto ones.

In any case, it comes down to a basic principle: respect. A woman ought to be able to wear whatever she wants, without being disrespected for her choices.

I think it is desirable for men to respect women - and not judge them based on their fashion choices. And it would certainly help if women did the same, wouldn’t it ?

never meant any offence to Beccah Mike, or anyone else. I used to BE one of those girls, so i feel it’s kind of like black people making black jokes.

shrug sorry if i’ve upset anyone, but i stand by my description. it’s a stereotype that’s WELL portrayed in the Outrageous Fortune series.

Oh and Lucy, it never occurred to me just how incomprehensible that sentence full of kiwi slang would be! Ooops!

It’s tough enough coming to NZ from another ENGLISH speaking country. When I first got to school in NZ, someone asked me if I had my togs (swimsuit) and there was a discussion about “pashing” (french kissing if you are pre-teen). I was looking around wondering if Kiwi’s actually spoke English! You DO get the hang of it eventually. :slight_smile:

[quote=“Anna K”]Daggy westie chicks trolling for a bloke
Daggy - uncool, lame[/quote]
‘Daggy’, from ‘dag,’ something that’s hanging, like those square tags you see around the hemline on pictures of mediaeval clothes. In New Zealand and Australia, ‘dag’ has the more precise meaning of the yucky wool around a sheep’s arse that’s full of excrement and flystrike, hence, calling someone ‘a bit of a dag’ is an insult, unless it’s a compliment (which is sometimes the case, usually to mean that someone’s a real character.)

On a related note, calling someone ‘son of a gun’ used to be a horrific insult, because it meant that said person was born on a naval ship to a prostitute and there was no guessing who his father was. It’s managed to turn itself into a compliment, like ‘a bit of a dag’, usually with respect to someone who has successfully done something outrageous.

This is the case, as explained to me by a high school physics teacher after I was horrified when he referred to my sister as one. Mr Edwards thought the world of you, Stephanie.

Er, ‘arse’ = ‘anus’. Can be extended by synecdoche to refer to the whole backside area, also occasionally spelt ‘ass’.

Can be used as a technical term (like ‘bitch’ when talking about a female dog), but more often as an insulting description of a person (“The Law is an ass!”, “What an arsehole!”)

Hey, hey we have to differentiate - as a Shore Girl I have to say that SHore Girls were teeny-bopper Britney Spears wannabe sluts who spent far too much time at Supre-esque stores to daggy.

:laughing:

What’s wrong with Supre-esque stuff? :confused:

Don’t worry Lucy, people just being silly now :slight_smile: Ignore us! lol

Slightly off topic, but still on the boot theme, if you want to learn how to make medieval ankle boots like this:

I’m running a practical class at St Georges, next weekend:

ildhafn.sca.org.nz/stgeorge07.htm

All tools and materials will be provided.