Anyone know where I can learn ninjutsu?

I’ve been gaining wait recently due to a crap diet (even though I’m vegetarian) and being lazy. I’m keen to buck this curve, but I don’t want to change what I eat or put any effort into it.

I think I’ve found the solution: Be a freakin ninja.

Problem is, I can’t find any ninjutsu schools in Auckland. The NZ martial arts website pointed out a few in other cities. I know there is one out there as somone (who I have now lost contact with) was learning ninjutsu here in Auckland.

Anyone know of any schools for this or any suggestions as to where I might find them?

I thought ninjutsu wasn’t real. Isn’t it a fictional martial art from some ninja movie?

Ask Craig to ask Camille to ask Murray about whether or not he’s still teaching. Pretty sure he is. He, or one of his mates, can whip you into ninja-shape quick.
Good luck :wink:

Learn it from a ninja…but i hear they are hard to find :stuck_out_tongue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjitsu

Ninjitsu itself isn’t fictional, but much pop-culture over exagerates the realities.

Wikipedia puts it well:

Ninja are common stock characters in both Japanese and international popular culture. Depictions range from anywhere between realistic to fantastically exaggerated

There was a school teaching nijitsu in Auckland in the 90s. I knew I guy who was doing it at he told me quite a bit about it. I haven’t seen him for some years, but I’ll see if I can track him down.

Found it:

ninjutsu.co.nz/

It’s the first freaking result on Google, but I kept overlooking it because I had already clicked on it :-/

Thanks for your help guys.

[quote=“Ian”]Found it: ninjutsu.co.nz/

It’s the first freaking result on Google, but I kept overlooking it because I had already clicked on it :-/[/quote]

Wow, that ninjitsu really must work if even the website could hide in plain site…

[quote=“Ian”]

Anyone know of any schools for this or any suggestions as to where I might find them?[/quote]

You want Iga or Koga?

Looks like you found the Iga. (Not sure about the chief instructors stance though. looks a little like a water stance but the hand postures are unusual and slightly swaybacked. I guess I’ll have to check my stances.)

Kage Bushin no jutsu!

[quote=“Ian”]Found it:

ninjutsu.co.nz/

It’s the first freaking result on Google, but I kept overlooking it because I had already clicked on it :-/

Thanks for your help guys.[/quote]

Interesting guy the founder of this style. He seems to have founded his own style before he had a black belt in a recognised style and by the age of 24. Most people who have founded a reputable style have been practicing for more than 24 years before they make their own style.

Also he seems to have gone from novice in Ninjustsu to a 7th dan master in less than 17 years. I was at a 7th dan grading recently. The guy has been doing his style for 35 years, had won the world heavyweight full contact karate championship in Japan and has ben teaching for the last 27 years. Most 7th dans I have met have been doing their style for at least 30 years and usually 40 years.

I’d do a check to see if this is just a blackbelt factory.

How would I go about checking that out?

How would I go about checking that out?[/quote]

Red flags If you see one of these beware

Kid black belts: the younger the black belt, the worse the school is.

Belt Factory: If students are promoted quickly, such as reaching a new rank every two months, and/or reaching black belt in less than 3 years. Skill is usually superseded by the ability to pay for testing fees.

Instructor claims to be a high ranking master (such as 9th degree) and is under 50.

Warning signs Like the red flags, they identify McDojos. The difference is that just exhibiting one doesn’t mean that the school is a 100% McDojo with as much confidence and assurance as the above red flags, but it is most likely a McDojo. If the school exhibits a couple of these traits it is a McDojo.

The school or instructor promotes the idea that his school and/or style is the ultimate best in the world, or that cross training in another form of martial arts is 100% unnecessary.
If the school or instructor forbids entering tournaments, or if tournaments are restricted to specific styles or associations.
If the idea of take-downs or wrestling is never addressed, or if “anti-grappling” techniques are taught.
If the test for belt advancement consists mostly or entirely of memorization and making your form & one-steps look pretty
If board breaking has a heavy emphasis, or is taught to be an indicating to how well you would fight, or is used as a supplement to full contact fighting.
If the school has too many belts, or made up belts (such as camouflage belts)
If the school insists on long contracts and or uses collection agencies for late or missed payments.
If there are expensive clubs that you must join in order to learn or participate in various clinics or seminars, such as the “black belt club”, or "masters club"
If the school owns an actual franchise, such as “Karate for Kids” or "Tiny Tigers"
If the school uses a pitch book to get you to join or to convince you to sign your kids up
If the self-defense techniques that are taught aren’t at full speed or contact, or if the school is insistent only on one way of doing it
If the equipment (gear/uniforms/weapons) costs too much and/or is only ordered through the organization
If testing and monthly fees are excessive, for any reason
If the instructor is a master, yet under 40.
If the instructor’s credentials seem sketchy or are non-existent.
If the instructor proclaims to be a master of many arts, and is also extremely young.
If the school advertises that the grandmaster of the style regularly teaches there
If the school has many students, such as over 100, or if there are many black belts
If once reaching black belt students are encouraged to go start their own school or consider teaching
If ground-fighting is offered, it’s exclusive to club members (which usually have a high fee) and/or not allowed until a high rank
The instructor rarely works out with the students and has his assistants do most or all of the teaching
If they teach weapons like the sai and nunchaku as a form of self-defense
If they are a Chinese martial art and use karate belts
If they glorify or try to imitate the Samurai or ninja.

These are fairly standard signs. Ninjustsu traditionally doesn’t have belts. Until recently it only had three grades. Basically student, journeyman and master. The belt system is new, possibly only ten or twenty years old and borrowed from karate. If you are charged a large amount for gradings be wary. Most karate systems go up to 10th Dan, and there are very, very few acknowledged at this rank. Kendo has only ever had one 10th Dan. Judo has only had one 12th dan ever (the highest possible). Ninjutsu is a 15 dan system and there are at least 15 15th dans. One school alone has 4 of them. This by itself is very interesting. Of these, some are less than 50 years of age. As the Hatsumi school has only been taught in the west for the last 28 years, this is a short time to get 14 foreign 15th dans.

I actualy agree with this one but, do note, this doesn’t extend to all weapons. Alot of traditionalist schools (of Wushu at least) will teach staff or spear forms early on in the program, as staff and spear forms rely highly on stance work and are used to create a good foundation to foot work. But things like nunchaku, 3 section staff, kami, sai, those funky needle things or freaking ninja stars are probably not being taught for foundation purposes but to draw people in with “coolness” factors.

Thanks for the tips Alista. It would seem that this school probably would meet some of the criteria you mentioned.

At the end of the day I can always move to a better school. I suppose largely the problem with that approach is bad habbits, which can be hard to break. I am mostly in it for the fun and fitness, I’m not worried about being able to hurt someone or defend myself. I’ve never been in a fight (excluding primary school, but that doesn’t count).

I think I’ll go ahead and see how this goes, if its its like a TV show I’ll back away and find somewhere proper.

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for you help. I signed up to that Auckland school and my teacher Sensay David said I’m the best student he’s ever seen! I’m already moving through so fast, last night I learnt the the five finger roundhouse spin punch and my Sensay gave me 11 out of 10 he was so impressed. Next week I will be sitting my exam for my MAXIMUM belt and after that I can be a trainer.

So I want you all to come join my new school! starting soon! I’m really looking forward to being Sensay Ian (or I was thinking about using my hacker name and being Sensay Xtr333m). If you join up, for each one of your friends that you convert you get a free toaster (and not just a cheap and crappy one it is actually quite a good one I was using one to make one piece of toast one morning and it was a really good piece of toast which I put down to the cool toaster (which you can get one one of) and my awesome skillz.

Call me on 021 224 1337 if you are interested or PM me on here, but keep in the information secret, or as we say at the school, keep it secret, keep it safe (Sensay David came up with that one he is always coming up with cool sayings like that his mind is amazing like that.).

So, no luck then?

A ninja does not rely on luck.

Oh, and I posted a video of me doing ninja on youtube but I now I can’t find it (because I’m so ninja).