Great Lake Tournie Trip

[quote=“Carl”]
first of all re-enactors look at Larping as something good only for kids, or adults who don’t have the balls to pick up a real sword, some even think that we should just be ignored in the hope we will go away.quote]

Not all re-enactors by any means. There are definately some who are quite happy to pick up a foam sword from time to time. And yes there are a few loud mouths who think that larping is for kids and that steel is for real men, but I’ve only come across a few who I’ve heard express an opinion like this.

If they can put up with the Morris dancers than I’m sure they can cope with us.

Ok I have been following this thread and just wanted to say, that in no circumstances do I personally think that the pastime of larping is gay, and since I am the guy that wants a larp held at the joust, It is my opinion of the re-enactors that we will consider [/joke] ( sorry nerd humour, but then I guess I am in the right company).

Honestly I had a good vantage point all last year at the festival, and the larpers were the one who impressed me the most in terms of getting involved and engaging the crowd, and it is for that reason that I want you folk to come back. (anyway who else can I steal a ‘sword’ off and then proceed to hit at full(ish) strength).

If you will permit an observation on the style of larp you wish to run ( my apologies if I over step my mark, I may be a larp member, but I am not exactly an ‘old hat’), but as an organiser I would be happier with something that was a) medieval enough that the crowd (NOT the re-enactors) are fooled, and b) in a theme that we can sell to the crowd, so that we can plug you to the crowd.

Just my ideas, and I am happy to work with you on these to find the most practical and entertaining idea for both of us.

thanks for reading my wafflerant

Mat

What we are able to do will depend entirely on how many people want to go down to Taupo and do stuff. If there’s only a handful of us, I’m happy to just be an event volunteer with an nzLARPS badge.

I’m fully up for coming but I dont wish to be involved in a larp at the joust.

I felt that it cut in on what is was a good week-end of just relaxing and watching some joust, drinking some mead, camping and hanging out…But I’d still be keen to be there under the NZLARPs flag as I think one of the most useful things we can do to foster a good relationship with the “steelies” is just chat to them and show that we respect the effort that the put into their hobby and that were willing to help out to see cool events like this run and that we arn’t trying to pass our selves off as re-enactors mearly that we feel there is common ground between us (heck look at the lap overs in memberships of NZLARPs and re-enactment groups).

I also beleive that witnessing a LARP doesn’t give you a real sense of what LARP is all about so putting a display on is IMHO essentualy pointless…

To avoid clashing with the Canterbury Faire, the dates for the Great Lake festival have been moved forward one week to the 26th, 27th and 28th of January, 2008.

In addition we are pleased to announce that there will be an archery competition complete with prizes. These prizes along with the complete combat rules will be published fully soon.

I think there a few things to keep in mind.

Regarding re-enactors opinion of larping, I don’t feel a need to defend my hobby. Larping is not about combat (though it can involve some form of it) so anyone who gives us gip about being wimpy and not man enough to pick a steel sword is obviously missing the point and isn’t in our target demographic anyway. I think it’s great if we can get on with the re-enactors in the sense of two hobby groups respecting each other’s activities, but I don’t feel any kind of need to liked by the “steelies” to validate my hobby.

The crossover point between our hobbies is that in some way, we are both playing a role that is different to ourselves. No, it’s not the age of jousting and swords anymore. But for a weekend, we can pretend it is. It’s this aspect of the event that we have been invited along for.

We’ve been invited along by the organisers to provide “immersion” at the event (Hawkwind’s word, not mine) and to interact and involve the crowd much the same way we did last year - by wearing costume, being enthousiastic and being “in character” with the atmosphere of the joust. Larping is another way to be involved with the atmosphere of the event without necessarily needing to get involved in combat - Joe Average Public/ Joe Average Junior might want to be involved in the spirit of the event but are unlikely to immediately pick up a steel sword/lance. Everyone realises that that is not safe. Larping, in whatever form we choose to do it at the event, provides a way to be safely involved.

Whatever we end up doing will depend entirely how many people want to go along and do something. I’ve seen a lot of people volunteer ideas but no one has stuck up their hand to go “Yes! I’ll come along!” We need to keep in mind that anything we do will be a “sideshow” because, yes, we’ve all come for the jousting. We need to keep in mind that the audience that comes along largely consists of tourists and families with kids.

I personally think it would be nice to go as ourselves because it would be the kind of publicity that reaches the public, people outside our immediate circle. They probably won’t immediately start larping, but at least they will have heard of it, which they probably hadn’t before. I think it would be equally nice to rock up and be event hands that carry water, play town criers, pretend to be heroes to entertain the kids, disperse ourselves in the crowd to make some noise for the jousters and generically be there.

It all depends on how many others are interested and what they want to do.

I am going and I am willing to help out on the day, if you want me to, it is just that i will be busy that weekend and my priorites will be different.

thats all, but i am always willing to help :smiley:

would ‘archery’ include my ballista? :slight_smile:

But I would love you to bring it down, I get about three months off when school finishes before the joust, I am looking at the possibility of trying to make a trebuchet, I would be happy to have a launch off with you if it can be done. Actually now that I say that out aloud, fitting a trebuchet in my little car could be interesting, but we will see what we see.

NZ Larps has a trailer…maybe there could be a little space in it for seige weapons

Well, i don’t actually have a trebuchet yet, but I will bear it in mind, if I get time I will try and make one over summer

If you need a hand building one give a buzz i’d be willing to help. I’ve been looking at building myself one for a while and have a few essays on the design of trebs.

Hey there, sorry i did not reply for a while,

I am not even entirely sure I will get time to make a trebuchet, it is just one of those “if I can” ideas at the moment. What with organising the festival and finishing school I really don’t see my self having a lot of afternoons spare. The upshot is I wouldn’t hang around for me to get myact together so you can join in makig a trebuchet, but if you do end up making one, let me know and we will organise space for it at the festival if that is what you want.

In other news look out for major updates to the www.taupojoust.com site coming soon, I will post them here as well as things progress.

Mat

I’ve built trebuchets before. The most important thing to get the accuracy up is to make the axle very strongly fixed in position. The frame has to be rock solid and not at all flexible.

Railway sleepers are the business for making frames.

If you decide to build one, give me a call. I have hand tools (hammers and chisels) and power tools (drills, circular saws etc). I also have a cute tabletop working model :slight_smile:

[quote=“Troll Feeder”]I’ve built trebuchets before. The most important thing to get the accuracy up is to make the axle very strongly fixed in position. The frame has to be rock solid and not at all flexible.

Railway sleepers are the business for making frames.

If you decide to build one, give me a call. I have hand tools (hammers and chisels) and power tools (drills, circular saws etc). I also have a cute tabletop working model :slight_smile:[/quote]

Ah cool so you have how to get the accuracy down and i have essays on squeezing out every bit of potential energy out of it…we should go into to bussiness :slight_smile:

[quote=“FauxCyclops”]Bags being one of the Norsemen.

English are gay.[/quote]

The Norsemen re-inacters might take offence at a bunch of wannabe norsemen