Cotton knitting vs wool knitting: a comparative study

Spotlight has tons of plastic boning. You just cut to length yourself.

If you knit this with vertical narrow pockets, you can then insert them, no problem. If you want to experiment with it, I suggest the bespoke way. Make a trial piece from cheap stuff, like calico, then bone it to yourself. Once it’s comfortable, use that as a pattern to make the final one. :smiley:

(Not just a dirty old man. :smiling_imp: 0

In Victorian times the jumper… AAGH, the game is up already! :stuck_out_tongue:

In Victorian times a corset was most definitely underwear. Your dress is over the top and generally not boned or anything. I don’t know about the ones on Trademe, most of them are for looks only and made out of stretchy fabric that won’t do what you want it to. Some might be different, I just think theres’ a reason you can buy one of those for $40 and a custom made one costs $200-$600.

i’ll be wearing a proper corset with hook and eyes down the front and laces up the back too, Aiwe. Unless I want to sleep in it :open_mouth: I’m going to need some help getting back into it in the morning. I’ll help you if you help me! lol What you do is loosen the laces as much as possible, put it on, hook it up and then get someone to pull the laces tight. Then wait 10 minutes and pull them again. Corsets tend to loosen off after you “settle” into them!

sounds a bit like tightening the girth on a horse…
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just don’t kick me to stop me holding my breath! :stuck_out_tongue:

Hehehe

this is the funniest thing i have seen all week, I love it :smiley: :smiley:

This is, actually, a technical discussion, lad. It was labelled ‘knitting’ for a reason. That reason was to avoid prurient comments from people with a less-than-technical interest in the topic. Would you mind?

no not at all carry on, i will just watch from the sidelines

Thin wooden slats from bamboo blinds also work well as boning. I made a vaguely elizabethan jumper for re-enactment stuff several years ago and these worked fine.
For support having a fair bit of boning at the front would be a good idea.
Aiwe- I’ll bring mine along to Sword and Shield training on Sunday for you to have a look at if you are there.

[quote=“clare”]Thin wooden slats from bamboo blinds also work well as boning. I made a vaguely elizabethan jumper for re-enactment stuff several years ago and these worked fine.
For support having a fair bit of boning at the front would be a good idea.
Aiwe- I’ll bring mine along to Sword and Shield training on Sunday for you to have a look at if you are there.[/quote]

Yes, I’ll be there. I’ll be happy to look at your jumper, as I’m seriously thinking of making one (even bought some eyes and hooks today :smiley: ).

The other question that I’m really wondering about - how to sit while wearing the jumper? I have a denim jacket that fits fery tightly, I used it to make patterns for some clothes before and will be doing it again. However, when I fully zip it on the front and sit like this - it’s not that easy :confused: And the fabric actually bends around my body, but still it’s all very tight. So, I’m now thinking of how would it be to sit in jumper which fits the body even more tightly than that jacket, but at the same time does nt bend around :open_mouth:

Since you’ve been wering jumper before, I will probably be asking you tomorrow on how exactly you move in it (and breath too! :unamused: )

hugs

The corset must be shaped so that there is just enough room for you to sit very upright in a chair, no slouching on the sofa in one of these things! In fact, I tried driving in mine the other day and thought I was going to suffocate after a while. So I guess I’ll be dressing on site! Breathing is strictly an upper-chest thing! Hence all the “heaving bosoms” etc in old romance novels. Probably also why they used to faint a lot.

Not sure how to describe the front shape, it’s lowest in the middle and then curves up over where your thighs will be when you sit down. Your denim jacket is probably straight across the bottom?

If it’s a real solid, tight corset you’re planning to make (rather than just for show) make sure you have a few days to practice in it (did I say that previously? can’t remember). They take some getting used to! I’ve worn mine for 5 hours a day so far and I’m fairly glad to take it off. Don’t know how I"m gonna manage 12, or 20! :open_mouth:

The ladies in costume will be STANDING a lot at Ravenholme, I think. :stuck_out_tongue: Possibly we won’t be eating much either! lol Of course, you don’t have to lace it really tight. 'Tis only a game.

elizabethancostume.net/custompat/index.html

neat site, i’ve added that to my bookmark list! For the Ravenholme game tho, a Victorian era corset is shaped down over the hips… umm… i mean it goes in and then back out again, which the Elizabethan ones didn’t.

Lovely Clare has let me borrow her jumper, I’m making pattern of it. And will need to get those little bamboo bones. I’m gonna look in Spotlight, they migh have something suitable and on suitable price.

They are all placed differently, I mean - each part of jumper has bones with different angle, particularly adjusted to fit the body the best way.
I felt surprisingly comfortable in that jumper, and even breath became easier - probably because it made me extremely straight (I think I’ve never been so straight before). I think now that the straight bearing which is also much said about in those old romance novels is a result of wearing corset as well.

This is why it makes no sense when mothers tell their little daughters to hold the back straight to look good as those past ages ladies - it is just impossible unless you wear a corset. You have to remember to hold it like that all the time, but it would not help anyway, you will bend even not noticing it.

Heaving bosoms and faints - definitely yes. And I think it depends a lot on how toght the lacing is.
Hmm, that could be maybe use for roleplaying, though I have no idea what advantage a faint can give. I’ll think of it later :unamused:

Hooks and eyes on front and lacing on the back should be a convenient option.

Yeah - I found that with my tight-laced brown dress, my back aches for a bit and then the constant reminder to tuck my tummy in and stand straight puts everything into alignment and I feel a lot better.

omg I tried to put mine on by myself today… I kind of managed it but it took me 40 minutes!!! rofl, that won’t do. Gonna have to practice some more. :open_mouth: or go with Plan B and ask someone to help!

You can buy plastic boning encased in fabric at Spotlight, I believe. You’ll have to ask someone there where they hide it though. It’s a bit bendy, but if the fabric you’re using isn’t stretchy it works well.

I’m a bit worried that mine comes up too high at the back. It kind of catches my shoulderblades, which isn’t comfy. Don’t feel confident to alter it tho. Might have to spend some money and get a professional to look at it.

I just must share this link here:

http://www.timeless-trends.com/

Funny, I found it in adverts in my LJ. They are really helpful sometimes, those adverts :laughing:

By the way, if someone wonders: I managed to successfully make my jumper before Ravenholme game, and I spent the whole weekend in it.

I saw that there too!

I just clicked that link and my school filter blocked it as “Pornography” :slight_smile:

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:
No, there is nothing like that there. It mostly has pictures of corsets and information on them, and well, couple of girls wearing them.
You probably have a very strickt filter :confused:

Would a front-lacing corset be much different from a back-lacing one?
I am looking at making an elizabethan style one myself, and would prefer to be able to get in and out of it myself, which is why I’ve made all my fitted dresses so far front-lacing.