A different type of stab-safe spear / modular heads

weapons
stab-safe
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#1

Over the past-few years we’ve seen the introduction of stab-safe spears into the NZ larp community. These have been built according to UK specifications, with a collapsible, open-cell foam head which dissipates the impact, along with leather to prevent the core punching through. We’ve had a bunch of these imported via Saxon Violence, and Michael B-T has been making them for Saga.

I learned of another type over facebook today, from Germany, which simply has a flexible head, with a core that stops a lot further back (and, as best I can tell, the usual protections to stop punch-through). There’s a short video here (in German):

Interestingly, you can also get these as part of a modular polearm set, which allows you to switch heads and turn your spear into a halbard or glaive. It works by having a metal screw and socket arrangement halfway down the shaft, which looks to be well-protected by foam when assembled. There’s a picture here.

It looks like an interesting design, and I’d love to hear if anyone has encountered them (@Reanna?)


#2

Just a correction- I made a couple of prototypes based on the UK specs, but these haven’t shown up at Saga, the ones that did were Ben Burrows builds. One day I might finish the one I have in the workshop. :slight_smile:

I like the idea of the breakdownable pole, but I do wonder how strong the joins will end up being after prolonged use, especially the swinging forces as opposed to the thrusting ones.


#3

Apologies - I’d only seen the prototypes and heard they were being made for Saga.

I’m also wondering about the join and whether parrying with a modular weapon will damage it in the long-term. Given the cost, it would be an expensive problem to discover. But if these are in the German market, we’ll eventually get some anecdata about whether it holds up to regular use I guess.


#4

Since I was asked directly… I haven’t seen any of these up close, actually. Spears are rare in general because some games still ban them outright for stabbing and those that are accepted to be safe in all circumstances tend to have fairly floppy heads. So they’re not as cool as they could be…

Most people using polearms have either a staff or something like a glaive or a halberd. In other words, blunt or cutting weapons on a stick.

I don’t know if I’d be comfortable with stab-safe spears either, to be honest. If there was ever an opportunity for somebody to lose an eye, this’d be it, I think.


#5

The best way to get comfortable is to play around with one. There’s a couple in Wellington (and a few more non-stabby spears), and they often show up at games or fight-club.

The heads of the UK models are both large (as in “bigger than an eye-socket”) and very soft. They still tend to be used in a way that keeps them low and away from the face and throat. I still wouldn’t want to take one in the face though. The German flexi ones have a narrower profile and might pose more risk to eyes, though it’d depend on what they’re made of.